We've got to be able to edit our posts.

Category: Zone BBS Suggestions and Feedback

Post 1 by coasterfreak88 (The coaster freak is here.) on Monday, 21-Feb-2005 21:43:35

Some other forums that I talk on allow the user to edit his or her post. We've got to have that for everyone. Then it would be a heck of a lot easier to cut down on our mistakes and we won't have to post in our own topic. I really want this implemented. What do you all think?

Post 2 by Dave_H (the boringest guy you'll ever know) on Tuesday, 22-Feb-2005 1:13:34

You can edit your post, until it's submitted.

Post 3 by Jage (Zone BBS, a decade of madness) on Tuesday, 22-Feb-2005 1:27:51

It's been thought of. Couple of options we're thinking of. Allowing you to preview posts before submission. Mind you you can do this now by, knock on wood, reading what you typed. But I know I'm guilty of not doing this either. Other is allowing editing for a certain amount of time, an hour for example.

Post 4 by louiano (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Friday, 25-Feb-2005 12:02:39

hey or why not can we delete our own posts? I mean sometimes you created posts, may informational requesting ones but if you don't get a repply, or what these old posts? because, believe me, I really take a lot of time to read some posts and there are ones even with up to 120 or more replies... just a thought

Post 5 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Friday, 25-Feb-2005 14:22:08

Hmm I think may be the idea of having an hour or so to edit your post or be able to preview the post is good, however I think being able to delete your posts at any time is not very smart. It'll make reading discussions impossible, people could post something offensive and then just delete it again when it causes contraversy and if admin wants to keep track of it this means keeping track of the way any topic looked at any point in time and it would be a major head ache, also deleting posts really disrupts the flow of a discussions so it'll be impossible to make any sense of it. If e.g. though there is only one post in a particular topic ( no replies) and it's been like that for, say 24 hours or something may be allow that poster to go in and delete it, although I don't really see why/how this o would help actually.
Cheers
-B

Post 6 by The Shuck Fitter (My name is Liam) on Friday, 25-Feb-2005 15:40:10

I disagree fully. if you think it's gonna be a bad idea, don't post. If you can't spell check your own writing, then don't post. I think an edit feature would be a bad idea.

Post 7 by rdfreak (THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE-BLUE KANGA-KICKIN AUSIE) on Friday, 25-Feb-2005 17:44:58

it's alright for you Liam; you have that feature available to you. but I agree that it should be available to everyone. cos as was stated other message boards have that option.

Post 8 by Jess227 on Friday, 25-Feb-2005 22:06:12

I agree with Liam. It's called type it in Word and spell check it.... Then post it... And I agree with wildbrew, it's nice to be able to delete your own posts however if the admin needs to keep tabs on a certain user's behavior and the user knows it, all the user has to do is delete it off and the admin wouldn't have a good grasp on proper action. So edit in word, and watch what you post because I think a edit feature for this is a bad idea.

Post 9 by JH_Radio (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Friday, 25-Feb-2005 23:44:23

Personally, I think an edit post is a good idea. I also think havin a spellcheck would be nice, but it is just a nice featuer that I don't think is really neciserry.. Well for me it is... LOL I agree with the being able to only edit your post for an hour after its posted. However, make it so that it doesn't reset to an hour each time you edit a post! Because then, let's say a poaster wants to edit his/her post once an your for like 1 10 hours, they could. Know what I mean?

Post 10 by Caitlin (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Saturday, 26-Feb-2005 15:28:29

I don't want there to be an edit feature either. I mean I make lots of typos and regret it later, but we all do. Or most of us do. And who cares? It's not like this is school work lol. But for some people who wanna edit, I like the hour idea. Heh.

Post 11 by JH_Radio (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Sunday, 27-Feb-2005 1:18:38

That's what I'm saing, an hour.

Post 12 by PhantomOfTheOpera (Generic Zoner) on Sunday, 27-Feb-2005 11:46:23

On the site for my high school tech club, there is a link where you can edit posts. It is a good idea because occasionally, I'll post something and forget to include something in my post. So, instead of just making another post, I can click the "edit post" link. If anyone wants, I can post the code for it on here so that we can easily have it done on the zone.

Post 13 by Caitlin (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Sunday, 27-Feb-2005 14:42:12

Sounds nifty to me. Heh. Only I think people shouldn't be able to delete posts all together because
1. It'd be a security hazard i think
and
2. It could seriously injure discussions and make htem all confused if bits and pieces are missing.
Caitlin

Post 14 by maddog (I'll have the last word, thank you!) on Sunday, 27-Feb-2005 20:05:33

I think that if you're too lazy to edit your post before you actually post it, you shouldn't get a second chance to edit it. So, just either write it in word, then spell check it, then post it, or just write it on here, go through it word by word or whatever, and then post it, but I really don't think that an editing feature is necessary. I think that the boards are fine as they are. Yes, they may need a few modifications, but editing one's own posts is not one of those. If you want to edit your posts people, jsut go back, and proofread. It's that simple.
Peace!

Post 15 by Caitlin (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Monday, 28-Feb-2005 1:05:34

Ya you make a fair point Maddog. So you either psell check it, check it word by word, or, the one you forgot, don't check it at all, like me! Hehehe...

Post 16 by rdfreak (THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE-BLUE KANGA-KICKIN AUSIE) on Monday, 28-Feb-2005 4:45:58

um, the point is that other message boards have an editting link. why should this be any different? it shouldn't. think of it as a separation issue! Lol

Post 17 by ItsAConspiraZ (This site is so "educational") on Monday, 28-Feb-2005 18:23:30

I disagree. However if you mjust have something perhaps a way to add on to posts. The reason I don't think editing is good because say if someone accuses someone else of saying something on the boards, he/she can just go and change it can't they? Not good.

James

Post 18 by Star (Honorary Bitch of the Zone) on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2005 1:29:00

The question here is not just why one can't edit or delete a post after it was posted, but whether this feature will really offer something and make worth the trouble implementing it. Also, lets keep in mind that there are features that the Admin wants to keep for the paying elite and not make available to everyone. So, in other words if you want more you will have to pay more. I would like to see the editing feature or at least a preview feature as this board does not accept empty lines within a post so sometimes I have to put dots (...) to create some space between subject within one posting and I wonder how it would look like when posted.

Post 19 by The Shuck Fitter (My name is Liam) on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2005 12:38:11

for those who don't abuse the power, ahem, it's not a problem. I can agree with the previewing a post idea, but just because one board has the editting feature, doesn't mean every board should have it.

Post 20 by Star (Honorary Bitch of the Zone) on Tuesday, 01-Mar-2005 16:09:28

The power, ahem, seems to be a problem. A very big problem indeed. Few are those of true character with such solid intergrity that can resist the temptation of power and all that power brings with it. Money is a power and tell me one person who would give up that power easily. I ask you the following: how much does it cost per year to keep this website going? And do $25 a pop to become elite members cover those costs or not? If they do, do they also bring in some profit? Let's say that they do bring in profit, do you think that Admin would share that profit with all those who put time and work on this website? Probably not. You see, that is a small example of power. Those who have power won't share it!

Post 21 by rdfreak (THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE-BLUE KANGA-KICKIN AUSIE) on Wednesday, 02-Mar-2005 5:06:12

yes Liam, you definitely can't talk about power. there sure seems to be a really big problem here. I've kept my mouth shut for this long, but now I've had it! I don't know who you are referring too, and quite frankly I don't give a damn, but who was the one that stuffed the profiles up? Something is seriously wrong with the selection and dis-selection of community leaders, and I'm not afraid to say it now cos I speak the damn truth. I only suggested J speak to me about this ages ago but he hasn't, and when Liam brought this up, it got me wowed up! Liam, stop leading double standards! .. OK sorry guys I will go!

Post 22 by rdfreak (THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE-BLUE KANGA-KICKIN AUSIE) on Wednesday, 02-Mar-2005 5:09:19

oh and I wish I can edit my post because I don't usually act like this. i am sooo damn nice and understanding and forgiving with people. that's the damn problem with me. I swear you'll be in trouble if you delete this post! some people have serious issues!

Post 23 by The Shuck Fitter (My name is Liam) on Wednesday, 02-Mar-2005 11:51:42

the person who stuffed up profiles. Definetly wasn't me, and I believe you know who it was. feel free to discuss this elseware, and I'll clue you in

Post 24 by ItsAConspiraZ (This site is so "educational") on Wednesday, 02-Mar-2005 14:43:12

Is that the same thing with the enigma profile where it's all nice and cool but if ya go in the directory you see pxxx-old.mp3 with what sounds like the original? Odd stuff...

James

Post 25 by rdfreak (THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE-BLUE KANGA-KICKIN AUSIE) on Wednesday, 02-Mar-2005 15:37:08

um Liam, it was you alright! I was on ventrilo when you did it! I shout out to the worl it! was! you! who ridiculed Catwoman (though she doesn't appear to have found out) then you get away with it. Quit your double standards Liam; we are all finding this out. and as for J, well, I really don't know. You both have treated me disgusting and I only hope you'll wake up one day! oh, and messing with audio profiles aint cool on a public site, especially one which is now going premium. You seriously could get in all sorts of trouble, especially if that person is premium. Let me tell you this one, cos some people don't seem that capable of it.

Post 26 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Wednesday, 02-Mar-2005 15:47:59

Well, I've seen examples of certain community leaders deleting posts, I know of 2 leaders and 3 posts, of course J can do exactly what he wants since he's the one who invented the site .. but, anyways guys, it don't matter who did what .. ;) it's a bit of a public argument, it'd be shocking if liam really did that to CatWoman, she's ice and totally did not deserve what was done t her profile, but I'm not one to judge because I don't know the specifics.
I'm still hping for the community leader behavioral outline being posted, those guidelines should help all of us and, by the same token, I think we're already seeing the accusations and confusion rising from someone's ability to delete posts, they could possibly be accused of deleting a post they didn't delete and vice versa sso over all I think it's an awful idea.

Post 27 by admin (I just keep on posting!) on Wednesday, 02-Mar-2005 16:12:38

Remember that much of any abuse that may have taken place was before we had tracking and accountability for knowing who deleted what post, etc. NOw if a post is deleted, someone banned on Ventrilo, and a number of other things, all community leaders and admins are immediately notified of this fact. I'll take credit for a lack of accountability in the past, but think it has improved dramatically since these measures have been put in place.

Post 28 by rdfreak (THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE-BLUE KANGA-KICKIN AUSIE) on Wednesday, 02-Mar-2005 16:43:55

j, I wasn't talking about deleting posts (though this was done as well. I was talking about profiles being modified. and as for whatever you are talking about, how could a non-CL bann someone from ventrilo? and you should know that a sane person would only do this for good reasons. Don't you start with your double standards. they are not cool! I suggest that you take a look at your actions lately and address them in the way that doesn't involve publically humiliation. It's yoursite, so whatever goes will go but you should be careful.

Post 29 by The Shuck Fitter (My name is Liam) on Wednesday, 02-Mar-2005 16:52:48

it also has to be noted that community leaders can't modify profiles. They can make stuff all day, but they can't modify it. The only people who can make serious profile/point/random changes are admins.

Post 30 by Jage (Zone BBS, a decade of madness) on Wednesday, 02-Mar-2005 17:20:41

RD: I will not discuss issues such as this publicly. Anyone who has a problem about anything here and notices abuse of power is by all means welcome to PM admin, Chris N, or any community leader. I like the idea of posting some of our policies on the site. We'll develop a concise way to make this possible soon.

Post 31 by rdfreak (THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE-BLUE KANGA-KICKIN AUSIE) on Wednesday, 02-Mar-2005 19:19:02

smart move j-squared! very very good idea!

Post 32 by Jage (Zone BBS, a decade of madness) on Wednesday, 02-Mar-2005 19:48:57

Not sure as to what you were referring. Anyway, we are going to be adding a FAQ/knowledge base section to the site which will have a lot of frequently asked questions for new users, site policies, etc. If anyone has questions about the site, or things that weren't clear to them as a new user, write them here or PM me. The code is basically written. We just have to put it here. But we already have a Knowledge Base on Stream Madness so it'll be easy to put here.

Post 33 by PhantomOfTheOpera (Generic Zoner) on Thursday, 03-Mar-2005 16:59:51

Many people seem to have the opinion that this edit feature could change other people's posts. That would not be fair. The edit feature should only be accessable to the person who created the post--unless you are a moderator or site admin. Otherwise, no one can edit your posts except you.

Post 34 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Thursday, 03-Mar-2005 17:15:36

Well, as for the dispute, note that the instances I was referring to are quite anceient (in site terminology standards at least) so I think that was before the tracking system was put in place. I applaud the idea of posting the policies. I think it can elliminate a lot of minor disputes or arguments or misunderstandings and I am strongly opposed to allowing people to edit their own posts, just looking over this discussion proves it beyond all doubt, I like the idea of a preview feature, just because Jaws can be very confusing when in edit forms mode and you can even sometimes hit the submit button byu accident (e.g. I'm not sure why but I had another page open that had a refresh java script running, somehow that refreshed my Zone page as well and I submited a half written message, this was a long time ago but it was a weird thing for sure).
So I think the argument for a preview feature is pretty strong. :)
Hail to the admins the CLs etc.
cheers
-B

Post 35 by Chris N (I just keep on posting!) on Thursday, 03-Mar-2005 19:25:30

A few things.

1. I very much like the idea of previewing your post before it's posted.

2. I think that editing posts could lead to abuse and deminishes from the feel of the site. It's not like you can modify your words in real life.

3. As Admin has said, safeguards are now in place. All admins and CLs are notified if a post is deleted. We know who deleted the post and why it was deleted. Anything off-color which may have happened was before the site had paying members. Things are definitely being watched more closely now.

Post 36 by Witchcraft (Account disabled) on Friday, 04-Mar-2005 23:55:53

I agree. The preview would be wonderful, *smile* however like has been said, you can't edit your words in real life so... But I do think preview before posting is a great compromise!!!

Post 37 by JH_Radio (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Friday, 04-Mar-2005 23:56:16

Personally I'd find previewing posts very, very annoying and I would like the option somewhere in account settings to either have that on or off. Or at least make it a checkbox within the posting screene. John

Post 38 by EssenceOfFaith (The Creamy Apple) on Saturday, 05-Mar-2005 21:57:14

I agree with whoever it was that said that editing posts could lead to abuse of the site. I know Chris N said it, but I have a feeling someone else did too. I also agree with the fact that you can't edit your words in real life, and the internet shouldn't be any different. As for the preview option, both a preview and a submit option would be fine and wouldn't hurt anyone. And then maybe somewhere in the account setting you can have an option for automatic preview or no preview option at all.

Post 39 by Happy Little Faith (One day closer to eternity! Wahoooooooo!) on Tuesday, 22-Mar-2005 20:54:53

Well, i think it is a wonderful idea to edit your posts. Maybe not to delete them, but only ot edit the text. I know that sometimes I have hit the enter key and just realize that I had something else to say. Just think about it for a moment! I am happy as it is currently, but I would be tickiled pink if we could have the niffty feature of editing our own posts, and not deleeting them, or any other persons' post.